Icarus, The Ugly Duckling and The Twitty Bird
By bluepanjeet on Sep 17, 2007 in *Seat Of Wisdom

My American, British and Australian professors, while I had this opportunity to attend an English proficiency program, and during our open forum, said that: “Many Filipinos are so talented and good at their craft that even a slight opportunity to be famous, can already bloat their head and turn them into crabs, grasping and clinging to others just so they themselves can climb the top at the expense of others”
Well being a newbie here in the blogosphere for almost 5 months now, out of the confinement of my stifling friendster blog (I started blogging in 2005), I never felt the feeling of being brushed aside or worse discriminated.
When I was still in the Wordpress.com days, my first ever visitors were Karla, Knoizki, Fruity, Jaypee, Airwind and Ronnie. They were already established bloggers yet they were my only readers then. At first I was clueless as to how I would carry out any conversation with them simply because as a friendster blogger, I only had consistent lurkers there and I don’t really reply to comments for there were none. So replying to their comments on my WP.com blog was really a nerve wracking experience. I was so careful on my words that it took me 10 minutes before I push the submit button.
But I learned from these guys that there is no need to actually impress them for the fact that they have accepted me in the blogosphere for what I am, grammatical and typographical errors and all. I never knew that they were already big names in the blogosphere for I really have no hint of what it is like being a blogger out of my friendster blog. I was like a “Promdi” (From the Province to non-Filipinos) who actually went to the city and staring at those huge buildings that eclipses me, while figuring out for directions.
It was really Jaypee Habaradas who mentored me on establishing my own self-hosted blog and at the same time gave me tips on how to become a good and charming (that’s an understatement) blogger. And to him goes the full credit of the success of this blog, for if he did not patiently taught me the tips and tricks of installing Wordpress via email and chat, I would never have this home of mine in the first place.
When I launched my full battle gear; The T.A.P.S.I.LOG OTWOMD blog last may, the Big names started visiting my blog including DYU of Pinoyblogosphere, Doc Prudence, Benj and Reyna Elena together with her fairies. I did not know the extent of their popularity then, so when I found out that they were the well-established bloggers of the Pinoy Blogosphere, I was starstrucked. I know you understand the feeling of such because all of us did not have a star on our forehead and a sash on our shoulders when we started blogging with the exception of course of some respectable and credible personalities like Manolo Quezon, Ellen Tordesillas and Ricky Carandang.
To put it plainly, these bloggers were the first people who taught me the meaning of humility online. This page will not suffice if I enumerated the many good things that I learned from them. Suffice it to say, they were actually my first “unofficial” mentors here in the blogosphere. And the reason why I still have this blog is because of them. I owe to them what I have now here on my blog and of course to all my new blogmates that always keeps me abreast on what is happening on their respective lives. Because every conversation, discussion, or if you want to inject intrigue in it, arguments, is actually a learning experience and a honing of maturity with regards to respecting others opinions without really getting personal.
If I may just give you an example, the best discussion that I had before my “Goliath has fallen” post, which I always read over and over again because of the richness of mutual understanding and respect, is my discussion with Benj HERE and that of Doc Prudence HERE and HERE. That was nerve wracking on my part but these two really taught me how to stand my ground and be firm on my beliefs without actually offending their sensibilities. Of course the gratitude also extends to those whom I consider my new friends here (you know who you are… and yes, Special mention ka Malen “I Love your personality and your blog is beautiful” LOL).
This past week has been very taxing for me because I know I need to say my stand without actually offending others. Though I am very capable of releasing feisty comments whenever I see something wrong, but I make it to a point that I don’t pertain to anyone nor mention their names, not because I’m afraid or what, but because I believe, just like me, they are entitled to their own opinion. And as Aretha Franklin’s annoying song RESPECT goes: “R-E-S-P-E-C-T FIND OUT WHAT IT MEANS TO ME” (don’t dare conclude, I hate these kind of music, I just googled the lyrics).
Respecting my fellow bloggers is one of my principle here in the blogosphere. That’s why I rather TAKE STAND than TAKINGS SIDES
Taking sides and taking stands are two different things.
When you take sides, you are actually approving what others did on the basis of subjective attachments as in the case of defending someone because they are your friends, relatives or family members.
But taking a stand is an objective decision focusing on the real issue regardless of personal attachment and impression on both parties.
This is what I learned from mentors in the seminary formation which others are not fully aware of. But I can’t blame others really for defending their friends, because it is a normal human reaction especially if the friendship is bonded by common grounds, interests and experiences.
If I were in their shoes (and dear God I hope it’s a Nike and not Prada), I would do exactly the same thing because I am a human and I think no one on this planet cannot say that they haven’t defended anyone on the basis of consanguinity or friendship.
But in cases where intellectual prowess, common sense and reasoning are mostly needed instead of emotional outburst and impulses, objectivity must always prevail because it is the most mature way of dealing with conflicts.
I like what Doc Prudence said with regards to attacking Malu Fernandez, which I cannot anymore recall where I read her statement (forgive me doc, I cant remember the link). It is something to this effect:
“If you will attack (comment or argue etc) Malu Fernandez, make it sure that it is on the intellectual plane and not attacking her looks or her personal flaws”
So what is exactly my point?
1. If you are a famous blogger, put your popularity into good use by helping other wannabe/newbie bloggers in having their own niche on the blogosphere so that they may be given an equal/fair opportunity to be heard regardless of your difference of opinion. Just like what I mentioned above which these good Samaritans did to me when I was still new on my blog (and don’t get me wrong, up to now I still consider myself as a newbie and I will remain nameless forever at least on my ego).
2. Take a stand and do not take sides. Others may seem to interpret that you are taking sides but make sure that you are focusing on the issue or what the other did to you and not based on personal flaws etcetera. You may not convince others because you really cannot please everybody, but at least you are true to your self that you are only after on what the person did and not because the person is so and so.
3. Be mature enough to know the real score of both sides. No one has the right to criticize you or your opinion for that matter, but always make it a point that you heard the grievances of both sides before finally making a stand.
On my Twitter, I twitted last night that I had a hard time writing this post, because there are so many insights and hindsights that are flooding my thoughts which rendered my head aching. This is actually the hardest post that I have ever written because the issue involves my friend, and on the case of the other camp, some of her friends are also my friends.
But I have full confidence that our differences of opinion on this issue will not really affect our blog-relationship with each other because this is not actually our battle, this is theirs (the two people involved) but somehow we are also liable and responsible because they are our friends and we exist in the same domain called the Filipino Blogosphere.
With thorough reflection and prayer (yes even if I’m a sinner I still pray especially on matters of personal decision and conviction), I made a stand. I did not take any side, but I did make a stand:
A stand based on my own opinion. A stand that reflects my belief system and my scholastic religious backgroiund on morals and ethics. And a stand not based on what or who the person is, but on the hardcore evidence of what the violation committed. And a stand that is I think, and some of you will agree with me, A basic right that I should have, in the first place this is my blog, and on another side rail, that I’m a full blooded Pinoy Blogger, with or without awards, famous or non famous, who has all the right to be heard.
What are “some” of the basis of my stand?
According to Abraham Harrison in an excerpt of his article “How to Identify and Respond to an online attack”, which Manuel Villoria posted the link on his Twitter,
“you should take all attacks seriously and you should take attacks by highly-influential blogs more seriously. How do you identify a highly influential blog? Well, that’s a great question. Like fishing holes, the best bloggers try to keep their most insightful blogs a little quiet. I used to think that one merely needed to look at PageRank on Google, or rank on Alexa, or even the authority on Technorati; however, I don’t know if that is the best method since some of the most important reading lists, the most influential sources, are as likely to be “high-authority” as they are not. Someone once told me, “hey, it’s not how many people read it, but who they are!”
You can’t control online conversation unless you participate. To quote Sernovitz, “you’ll never be able to control the blogosphere conversation. Don’t even try. You’ll never be able to manage your blog coverage like you manage the press. Don’t even try. But what you can do is participate, earn respect, and tell your story. Jump in, join the conversation, and be a part of it.”
The best way to respond to a negative post is to post a response on your own blog.
Anyway, engaging attacks are generally a bad idea. Counter-messaging is truly the only recourse you have, and defensive SEO, to do you best to clean the sheets after all the mayhem is done.”
Another one is a part of the lecture of Victor Villanueva which was very well deconstructed by Arbert Bernardo on his blog
“For the first tip, he said the following:
* Be prepared to face the consequence(s) of what you write.
* Be prepared for confrontation.
* Deleting (or locking) entries can be futile.When the time comes that a blogger has to take a stand, he has to think hard about it; when he does take a stand and blog about it, he should expect that someone will contradict him. And if the blog post is controversial enough, the blogger should expect negative comments. He should be prepared to explain, to answer questions, to receive brickbats.
You are free to write about what you feel and what you think. When you publish it for the entire world to read, expect that someone will disagree. That someone will express his disagreement. He will point out why you are wrong. There will be confrontation. If you cannot defend what you have written, if you cannot face confrontation, you are only defeating yourself. You are only showing that your stand is weak, your opinion untenable.
And locking a blog post (*and on my stand, an account) is like deleting it - it is futile.”
(*my own addendum)
Another basis is the Code of Conduct. With Regards to this, (I think I should draft my own), I stumbled across this brief but nicely written draft of Radar Oreilly which I’m planning to ask permission, to incorporate some of his onto my own. He stated:
“We celebrate the blogosphere because it embraces frank and open conversation. But frankness does not have to mean lack of civility. We present this Blogger Code of Conduct in hopes that it helps create a culture that encourages both personal expression and constructive conversation.
1. We take responsibility for our own words and for the comments we allow on our blog.
2. We won’t say anything online that we wouldn’t say in person.3. We connect privately before we respond publicly. When we encounter conflicts and misrepresentation in the blogosphere, we make every effort to talk privately and directly to the person(s) involved–or find an intermediary who can do so–before we publish any posts or comments about the issue. (*but in their case, the damage has been done on a certain networking site before connecting privately for apology)
4. When we believe someone is unfairly attacking another, we take action.
5. We do not allow anonymous comments.
6. We ignore the trolls.”(*my addendum)
And the gist of the Code of Ethics written by Cyber Journalist which I also intend to ask permission for incorporation because of its clarity:
“Be Honest and Fair
Minimize Harm
Be Accountable”
And for the last basis on my stand, I want to impart to you an excerpt of what Olivier Blanchard wrote in his post about “Blog Elitism” which I believe needs applause and acknowledgement for a very enlightening truth about everyone’s right of place in the blogosphere. Though he was specifically pertaining to marketing, yet what he wrote applies to all niches of blogs and bloggers:
“Very few people out here in the blogosphere claim to be experts, yet a lot of them (not just a handful) have very interesting things to say. What’s amazing to me is that the more blogs I discover, the more I realize that no single person has all the answers.
On any given day, I can choose to read the thoughts and ideas of dozens of people whose cultural, professional, and economic experiences are completely different from my own. They aren’t all experts, but that’s the point. Sometimes, the most relevant questions aren’t asked by the PhD’s. They’re asked by the janitor or the mid-level manager or the first-time customer.
Sometimes, the most relevant observations come from the most unlikely places, which is precisely why they are so fascinating: They come from the trenches, not the board room. They come from people whose purpose in making them has nothing to do with profits or strategy or ego. These observations are real. Raw. Honest. There’s no spin. They’re our own experiences, only exposed by complete strangers. It’s refreshing, empowering and validating. Finally, everyone has a voice: Customers, interns, students, observers, everyone… and the questions they are asking should have been answered twenty years ago. By the “experts”.
Based on Spike’s mode of thinking, I guess that “only a handful” of professional politicians should really be allowed to blog about politics. Only former Secretaries of State should be allowed to blog about international affairs. Maybe Nasa should put together a qualifying program for anyone wanting to blog about space travel or astronomy.
The new snob mantra: Only “experts” should have a voice.
Yeah. Brilliant.
I don’t really see how working in advertising (or being a consultant, for that matter) has ever made anyone an expert in customer experience design, word-of-mouth-this, or identity-development-that. If anything, retail clerks and avid shoppers are the only real experts when it comes to the subject of customer experience. High-school kids are the only real experts when it comes to WOM. Here’s the thing: Being an “expert” comes at a price - Most of your time has to be spent doing the very thing that makes you an expert, which means that you can’t really become a professional expert: The more time you devote to talking about it, the less time you can devote to actually doing it. There is an opportunity cost there. If your job becomes talking rather than doing, then your expertise begins to shift.
In other words, the “experts” aren’t necessarily who you think they are.
Ultimately, when it comes to blogs, the number of plaques someone has on their wall, how many initials and periods fall after their name, how many VP-this and client list-that their CV sports… none of those things really matter. What matters is the relevance of their message. That’s it. Punto finale.
Blogging isn’t about status or titles. Blogging is about sharing ideas. It doesn’t matter if you’re a ten-year-old kid in Sarajevo, a retired contractor in New Delhi, a mystery shopper in Toronto, or the founder of Google. Great ideas, observations and insights can come from anywhere, at any time.
Not only can they, they should. That’s both the point and the beauty of this medium.
That is why it is always disappointing to run into self-righteous bloggers who think that their professional background or experience somehow entitles them to criticize other bloggers. Especially when they themselves don’t know much at all about who they are throwing stones at to begin with. I just don’t get it. It’s the kind of myopic snobbism that just reeks of insecurity, ignorance and prejudice. (It kind of reminds me of those annoying “holier-than-thou” Bible-beaters who think that you and everyone but their little clique are going straight to hell… and looooooove telling you all about it.)
I’m not sure what fueled Spike’s unfortunate rant. Maybe he is annoyed by the fact that he has to compete against an increasing number of bloggers whose posts might be better received than his. Maybe all that “noise” from bloggers without the right “qualifications” is interfering with his site’s Technorati rankings? (Since Spike’s blog serves the purpose of trying to sell something - not that there’s anything wrong with it, perhaps he has more at stake than those of us whose only purpose in blogging is to… well… just share ideas. Especially the good ones.)
Or maybe it’s just an ego thing. Who knows.
Here’s what I do know: If you want real answers, you have to live and work in the real world. You can’t just come down from your A-list wannabe’s creative ivory tower once in a while and stick your nose up at what you don’t like or fully understand. It just isn’t very productive.
Just like it isn’t very productive to tell people what they can or can’t blog about.
But the great thing about the blogosphere is that he has the opportunity to speak his mind. He will even find people who will agree with him, and although I completely disagree with him on this particular point, I think it’s great that he gets a chance to share his bile with the world.
People like us don’t strive to be experts. We simply strive to understand, learn, and share all of our observations and insights with whomever might benefit from even a sliver of what we’ve learned. Because it’s in our blood, we tend to do it for free. (And maybe that’s the rub.)
The term “expert” obviously means different things to different people, but all in all, we all pick and choose our own experts based on how well they fit our own experience and expectations. It’s a highly subjective thing… like crowning your favorite guitarist as “the best guitarist” or your favorite painter as “the best painter”. One man’s “expert” is another man’s… “who?”
When it comes to blogs, I couldn’t care less if a blogger is a homemaker, a forty-year veteran of the conference circuit or the hippest CMO on the planet. If what they have to say rings true, if it is relevant, if it inspires readers to make positive changes in their organizations (0r their lives, even), if it challenges them to consider new ways of thinking about their business, if it opens new doors for them, then this big blogging experiment has been a success. Case in point: even a copywriter-turned-new business hound can make relevant posts about customer experience issues and WOMM. Aren’t blogs grand?
Everyone has real experience to back up what they write about on their blogs… or discuss with their friends. Everyone. Anyone. That’s the point.
Maybe with time, Spike’s horizons will broaden enough to help him gain a better appreciation for this medium and all that it has to offer. That would be swell. Until then, I guess the rest of us nobodies will just have to find the courage to go on blogging without his expert stamp of approval.
The world is an imperfect place, but we’ll try to manage.”
Though you may take me as someone who has taken his side on the basis of my comments on other blogs, but I believe I took a stand, and no one has the right to discredit it because I am the one who made it. I cannot contradict what my conscience is telling me, much like what your own conscience is telling you.
I maybe mischievous and satirical on my comments, but deep inside my heart I am so saddened how we bloggers treat each other (including me) just because we do not agree on other’s opinion, and that we have to drag everyone and ourselves into this mess, which on the first place can be settled between the two opposing camps, amicably, humbly and unconditionally regardless of who’s with or what haves.
I am speaking to you right now on this monster post not as the ex-seminarian, a university professor, a nurse, a graduate school student, a reviewee and examinee, a former physical therapist and such litany of achievement crap. I speak to you as a fellow human being and a newbie blogger who journeys with you as a Walking Contradiction.
I believe in my own opinion that asking for an apology should be in private which I think the other camp has already done. But it is very inappropriate to ask for conditions on the part of the aggrieved in instances where apology and amicable settlement is being sought by the one seeking it. In Chuva’s words:
“forgiveness doesn’t care about principles”
In all honesty these words struck me because it is so true. And I very much agree to this. Yet, our virtues, and beliefs for that matter, should always coincide in what we do. It is in our actions that our belief system are judged. That’s why this should always be put in proper context. It may be absolutely true, but not in all instances should this be used as a shield against the real issue. It is Justice that always precedes mercy.
When Christ was nailed on the cross, it is in that instant that the total example of forgiveness was exemplified. Christ forgave his offenders regardless of their hate towards him, that even on his last breath; he took a repentant thief with him to paradise. Yet with all the forgiveness, that Christ has shown on the cross, would justice be spared on the offenders just because he has already forgave him? Does our logic tell us that God, who is the thunder of Justice, will let the people who crucified his son go without any proper retribution?
We need not take everything into biblical parlance; we just have to look on the ordinariness of our human existence here on earth. The court gives pardon, but it also makes sure that an offender spends time in sentence as a payment in exchange of his acts. Yet the Pardon is given.
Therefore, the words of Chuva doesn’t actually contradict my stand. It somehow enhanced and established more my opinion on this matter.
My stand is not the stand of the aggrieved party because I am of different psyche and free will. My stand is of my own according to my judgment, according to my right and according to my free will. It may be unacceptable to most of you but at least I gave myself a fair chance to be heard in the proper quorum, in the proper place and in the proper time, i.e., here on my blog
The aggrieved has all the right to ask for an unconditional apology, not only because he was agrieved or on other’s perception he may deem that he is ethically tangent compared to us, because not all of us is morally upright in the eyes of God. But simply because he is a victim of circumstance that in the order of nature, must be given what is rightfully his, which is “unconditional apology”.
Regardless of him, being of questionable gender as some have cited, or of being vocal and satirical at times, yes we cannot deny that he was offended and we do not have any right to take from him what is rightfully his; A Proper apology.
If one can’t understand this point of view, then I suggest take off his Prada shoes (definitely it’s not Nike) and put it on your own feet and tell me if you won’t ask the same kind of apology if you were offended?
This is not me separating the goats from the sheep or telling you who is right and who is wrong for both have their fair share of offenses with each other. But in virtue of justice, I think one must be given what is due, may it be in the existential, spiritual or biblical plane. For the order of nature has always been Justice. Mercy follows, then comes Peace.
“To err is human, to forgive is divine, to be just is nature”
And with this let me tell you my own version of the Greek myth Icarus.
Icarus and his Father, Daedalus were imprisoned by King Minos. During their time in prison, Icarus often maltreated the animals within the premises of their prison camp: the ugly duckling and skinny dog tied under an olive tree.
Icarus was fond of the Christmas crabs that used to swarm the island during its mating season. He collected some of them and put them on the pond, which was dug out of the rain’s outpouring. The ugly duckling and its siblings use to waddle there but when the crabs came, they were forced to vacate it because the crabs outnumber the duckling and their powerful pinchers inflict pain and damage.
Icarus never fed the dog, which was his duty as King Minos’ prisoner. The dog eats only the olives that fell from the tree, but with that, the dog was already satisfied of its condition, opting to stay hungry, alive and tied up rather than be free and killed otherwise by other prisoners.
But when the time came that Icarus and his father, Daedalus have to fashion their wings in order to escape their prison, it was also the time when the ugly duckling already grew into a beautiful swan, ready to fly and migrate to where nature will dispose her. While the strength of the rope of the dog has became weak at the mercy of the weather.
When Icarus and Daedalus flew away, the dog saw an opportunity to break free from his entanglement, which he succeeded. He broke the rope, and in hunger, he went for the crabs, trampled them under its feet and ate them with his powerful jaws. The instinct in the dog gave him enough strength to pierce his teeth way through the crabs’ sturdy shells.
On the skies, Daedalus reminded Icarus not to fly so high near the sun less the wax on his wings would melt. Yet, overjoyed by the height he has taken and seeing what he accomplished with those wings, he continue to rise not withstanding the risk involved and ignoring the father’s admonition.
Flying so high, he met the ugly duckling, which is now a swan in the sky. He thought that the swan was racing against him, but actually accelerating in speed because of the nature of its wings and simply because her instinct made her that way to arrive in time for the mating season, in contrast to Icarus’ man made flying device. With that, Icarus flew high, higher than the swan, thinking that no mere swan could ever beat him on the air that he enjoyed so much. Unfortunately he flew so high that the sun melted his wings and rendered him totally defenseless. He fell on the sea and drowned, not because of the swan, but because of his own doing.
Given my own version above, it is actually a no-brainer in understanding the lesson of the story. We can be the crabs who displace other creatures from the pond, or the dog that killed the crabs and freed himself only after the master had left, releasing all his vented anger, tension and repressed emotions on the crab. Or We can be Daedalus who admonishes and help young Icarus in guiding them in the vast skies of freedom, or the swan whose only purpose is to co-exist and live out what her instinct and nature made her to be. Or the worse we can be Icarus who flew so high that he found himself in a death sentence of his own doing which he can never ever escape.
The choice is ours my friends. There is no need for finger pointing, blaming and mud slinging because all of us, (including me), have become these characters in this story, one way or another. It is only through our decision and free will that will ultimately transform us to what these characters have portrayed. Thus, I quote Uncle Ben’s admonition to young peter parker in Spider-Man:
“These are the years when a man changes into the man he’s gonna become for the rest of his life. Just be careful who you change into. With great power comes with great responsibility.”
If anyone is blameless, in the sight of his God (whatever we call him) or at the helm of his own belief system, let him throw the first stone.
Did I ever tell you that I am a registered nurse? During my stay in the National Center for mental health, whenever there is a grouchy, violent mental patient who always harass us nurses and scare the bejeezes out of us, our clinical professor would always say to these patients who always complain and rant about the taste of the routine meds that we administer to them:
“Honey, you tasted your own medicine, and it is truly bitter”
If you feel and thought that I’m blaming, justifying or condemning anyone, well guess what, I’m not. Let us not deny what is rightfully and duly theirs. But in the virtue of free expression and our respective code of self-ethics, feel free to react, use your freedom of speech, cry out for an emergency online SOS or better yet “Twit Me” via your own “Twitty Birds”
At this point, I rest my case and let me sleep peacefully with my stand, firm, nonnegotiable, and according to “my own” conscience.
May God Bless All Pinoy Bloggers!

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30 Comment(s)
By chuvaness on Sep 17, 2007 | Reply
“to err is human, to forgive is divine, to be just is nature”
WAAAAAh. one word: MASTERPIECE.
It’s worth reading. You have stated your points clearly and I totally agree with you. walang kampihan. we can disagree with each other sa mundong ito ng blogosphere pero dapat andun lage yun R-E-S-P-E-C-T — regardless of our opinion of them.
mayaman, mahirap, Class A-B-C-D, sosyal, sosyal climber, may sariling domain o wala, professional o hinde, nike/prada o advan, bogspot.com/blog.com/wordpress.com/livejournal/xanga at kung anu-ano pa….MAGING SINO KA MANG blogger ka…you have the right to be heard.
IBAGSAK ANG IMPERYALISTANG KONTROL. Hehehe
PS
nakaka nosebleed ka na ha!
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By K on Sep 17, 2007 | Reply
Blue, thanks for the mention and sobra ka naman, I am not a BIG blogger - I always feel the “smallest po-tay-to (you say potato) in blogosphere. Apparently, I don’t solicit comments or linking, pero it depends on “oh we have the same thing in common”. I once had this one time reader before who personally tagged me as sarcastic, I was appalled knowing this person is not my regular. However, I just noticed that this person make friends also with people on my blogroll (so basically parang I welcomed this person to the blogosphere and make friends of his/her own) and I thought that was cool. One day I found out, inalis ako sa URL nya, so it made me think, “what did I do”?
So I minded my own business and do the normal stuff, write and erase, and delete and re-read, and write until I learned. Honestly, I only have a handful of “pinoy friends” on my blog, I like variety, I like diff people, I like diff nationalities, pero ewan ko lang kung bakit kapag Pinoy, naging paranoid ako kaagad (blame pinoy chat rooms for that). Pero, somewhere a long the way, there were those (Pinoys) na mas mahalaga yung you share each other’s thought and become really friends, (now that includes you). So I say, these are the kind of people I should keep.
And as for commenting, I learned that being confident and honest to what you say/share is what drives your audience to come back and read you. I have now loyal friends to my blog and do the same dahil for me, we blog not because we compete, we blog because we create our own community, we blog because we want to exchage ideas. Ganun pa man, I have more lurkers (which thankfully enough, they get something naman re: mp3’s, that I don’t mind, dahil it is what I like to do).
So I blog because, it’s now my official HOBBY. hehehe.
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By sasha on Sep 17, 2007 | Reply
Aha! Ang masasabi ko lang dyan kapatid… Amen.
Very well said
Ngaun, wait ka na lang, look at the spike in your unique visitors kapatid and see how the twitterlandia will throw visitors your way. Hahahaha… you know what I mean
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By JC on Sep 17, 2007 | Reply
thank you for taking your stand
hehe natuyuan ako ng dugo sa pagbabasa pero i must say this post has pointed a lot of important things for a blogger to know
i agree with you, wala dapat kinakampihan pero one must take a stand on an issue…there must be an equal opportunity to be heard regardless of differences of opinion
The aggrieved has all the right to ask for an unconditional apology, not only because he was agrieved or on other’s perception he may deem that he is ethically tangent compared to us, because not all of us is morally upright in the eyes of God. But simply because he is a victim of circumstance that in the order of nature, must be given what is rightfully his, which is “unconditional apology”.
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By swapw on Sep 17, 2007 | Reply
It’s no one’s fault to want to dream and you are right on! Good job on your stand, it’s important to stand up at the right times.
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By Prudence on Sep 17, 2007 | Reply
“But frankness does not have to mean lack of civility”
That, I think, sums up the stand that I’ve always taken, no matter what the issues are in the blogosphere. And though we have all these chaotic discussions and rants ongoing, I’m still glad that it happened. It just shows us how much we are enjoying our freedom to express ourselves. But yes, we do have to understand that we have all the freedom to express our opinions, our feelings, our anger, but we have to be, at least, civil about it.
Sometimes it’s not only about the content of what was said, it’s also about how it was said.
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By iRonnie on Sep 17, 2007 | Reply
as usual naunahan mo na naman ako. i was also planning to post my guiding principle in blogging pero hindi ganito kahaba. hahaha.
magtigil ka nga! established blogger ka dyan! mas sikat ka pa nga sa akin ngayon e.
anyway, i try not to be a famous blogger, only a principled one. i do not have to agree with everything one says, but i know that i have to respect the things that he is saying. i recognize that my opinions are not absolute, and i am willing to change view if someone can make me see a better picture.
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By Anti-Elitist on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
“Sometimes it’s not only about the content of what was said, it’s also about how it was said.”
i think i would disagree on that. What you are trying to imply, Prudence is it?, is a very subjective side of your standard. “HOW IT WAS SAID” depends on the readers pick up of the entire article. It totally depends on the readers temperament. If the reader is too sensitive and elitist therefore she would perceive it as something harsh. If the reader is positive, he would perceive it as insightful. if a happy go lucky would read it, then he would perceive it as something funny. It is a very subjective perception and I think if you are really a “wise” reader, you wont give a damn thing about this “How IT was Said” garbage. hmmmp!
I hate it when people are self righteous! nakakalbo ang hair ko!
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By Prudence on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
to Anti-Elitist:
Because an idea can be cast in a lot of different ways. I’ll take for an example the case of Malu Fernandez and the reactions of numerous people to that article. People were insulted at that article. And while that many posts were written that expressed indignation at what Malu wrote in that article, it was written in many different ways. There were those who exhibited more restraint while there are those, in my opinion, who went over the top and were more than rude. While that people will get the essence of each article expressing dismay at what Malu did, the manner by which the post was written shows the character of that who wrote it. The way people handle their anger definitely shows the kind of character they have.
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By reyna elena on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
(Warning: Don’t read between the lines! Deretsahan to at aariin ko tong blog mo! Hahaha!)
It’s funny you quoted Chuva, hahaha! You know what’s gonna happen? Lalaki tenga nun and then maniniwala yun sa yo! Alam mo gagawin nya? Lalagay nya yan sa kwadro. Hahaha! How did we became very close like this? Well, we had our moment in time when I blasted the heck out of his soul from the streets of Philadelphia to the mountains of tralala! Not even New York’s Finest could stop me. Now? We just drink and laugh about our complete and utter dsyfunctionality then. Today, he blasts me like insane just like what he did in my blog. How come he can do what he does without activating my mis-wired lava hiding beneath the crevices of my keyboard? It’s a no-brainer. You guys probably have earned a friend like him. Bwisit lang ako minsan. Barred na ako sa kusina nya.
I do get a kick out of my fried adobo rice when these well-known columnists picks up my blog articles and show it to the world to read. But am peanuts compared to you being a prolific writer bluep (I’m not done reading your about about about! Hehehe), I mean, even your blog’s aesthetics itself is already very much definitive of who you are and your background alone is an envy to people like me. You were so finely molded by your education and experience that your writings evokes fires around the halo with every bit of moral bridges that it’s quite difficult to be at par with you.
One thing though that I might have to disagree with your foreign-germ professors - I’m not sure about exclusivity of crab mentality amongst Pinoys, although the obvious cannot be denied. I’ve seen that here in the United States with the daily barrage of interesting clingons from politicians to Hollywood wannabees to ordinary people. Crab mentality transcends cultures I guess, such that kelangan ang mga retarded sa mundo because para daw ma-separate ang mga intelligent beings daw. Ewan. But, how do you distinguish one from the other nga naman, diba? Mga ulol na quotes siguro napuntahan ko.
Sabi mo - So what is exactly my point?
1. If you are a famous blogger, put your …blah blah blah!
Ok! Ok! Granted for the sake of argument that I am popular, wow ha? Am I popular? (*weeeee! kumalampag yata tenga ko! ulitin mo nga! Whisper it to me wid feelings! Hehehe) Ako ba pinapalipad mo na naman?! Di kaya nang kartolina kong pakpak ano?! Besides, popular people tends (read:hindi lahat) to be looked upon at gawing role model. Bummer! I’ve been a sinner pa naman since undergrad. Alam mo bang ang sinamba ko si eh si San Miguel wid my professor kaya siguro ako pumasa nang Tuyology?
I understand I have some lurkers, followers, CIA’s and a handful of fans. But when I started blogging, it was out of a completely different national anthem. Suddenly, I found myself with a lata readers (a lot nga ba?! Sandali check ko lang! Hahaha!) and followers.
Some of them told me via the comments section and on emails that they’ve connected with all my katarantaduhan despite that fact that some said that I could write scholarly (ugh! alam mo kung sino me sabi nyan na Sobra!) if I wanted to, swardwrite if I chose to, or plain straight ass talk, raw, unmoderated, unspelled un-grammar check, heck I’m one literary-challenged kind, what can I do. I don’t wanna go to school no more. Dude, lemme tell you sumtin, sarap pakinggan, feed na feed ang ego ko! Baon ko sa trabaho! But when attacked? SOMETIMES (!) I offer no apologies to my straight ass language. My officemates are even worst! hahaha! I don’t know if this is American, but I know that I must have learned this in here.
So, the question becomes - do you stick to what made them come or shoo them away by changing your strategy and change to be one role model of a chosen kind? Not sure. Do I want readers? Of course. Ayokong nagtatalak na walang nakikinig ano? Para naman akong ahhh…. kwan… i think delusional yata tawag dun! Hahaha! Will my blog evolve to the dictates of my readers by chopping this – chopping that, according to their whims, caprices and preferences? Siguro, to a certain extent but not to the point that I lose my crown. Yoko. And I definitely don’t want a select audience na we are we are na lang. You know what I mean. Nakuuu! Pag ako nabanas at yun yun na lang, pagsa-sapakin ko ang mga yan!
So, for your point number 1, I say: NOTED. Hehehe (haba no? Noted lang pala ang sasabihin!)
Sabi mo pa - 2. Take a stand and do not take sides
Ngek! This is not for me. I am one of the actresses in “Act III”, di ba? Hahha!
Last na sabi mo - 3. Be mature enough…!
Aray kuh! Hmpt! *umirap * ~!@#$%~ ~ *nadapa~ *napunit kapa~ waa! Waaaa! Huwaaaa! tinawag Tatay! Taaaaaayyyy!!!
Finally:
“I believe in my own opinion that asking for an apology should blah! blah! blah. In Chuva’s words:“forgiveness doesn’t care about principles”
Wag kang nang magpapakita saken Chuva kaaaa!! Grrrrr!!!
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By sasha on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
Bwahahaha
Lanya ka, Reynz, muntik lumabas sa ilong ko ang kape ko! Hahahah… Aylabyorlitanya, mahalnareyna! Hahahah
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By bluepanjeet on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
@EVERYONE- Hello. I don’t anymore reply to your comments because I think I already said my piece on the monster post above. I just want to remind all of you that while I tolerate opinion here i am also responsible in allowing your comments. To Anti-Elitist… let our discussion be polite enough as to not label others with anything. you can be frank all you want, thats fine but be sure not to label anyone ok. hope you understand Anti-Elitist that Im responsible here because this is my blog. Salamat at mabuhay kayong lahat.
@Reynz - hahaha ang haba. nasan na si chuva, dali tulian mo na! hahaha
@sasha - gandang umaga, mainit ba yung kape?
@JC- galit ka pa saken
@SwapW - hey where have you been. ive been lkooking for updates on your blog lately.
@Doc - me too, glad that this happend. so many learning experience.
@Ironnie - naunahan ba kita. brods mukhang kambal ata tayo kasi pareho nasa isip naten palage.
@anti elitist - welcome sa blog ko. sang lupalop ka naman nangaling at wala kang web address?
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By chuva on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
*pahid ng dugo sa ilong*
I appreciate the credit bluep, but may I give the credit to someone else? Someone bigger than me?
Similar to other means of communication (with the absence of the facial expressions and sounds), blogging is similar to writing a letter or an email. Crossing your Ts and dotting your Is could be very crucial because if you put an exclamation point when it was supposed to be a period, or writing in upper case versus lower case letters could easily be misunderstood.
I simply like the way you write because it is all thought out. Hindi katulad ko na larga lang ng larga. I do take my word placement and punctuations seriously. I am more careful in that way because again, I have to play the role of the reader as I write things. What would my reaction be if I was reading this? Would I be upset? Will I take it as humorous or insulting?
Great job bluep. Super hanga and sabay siko kay JC at sinabi, o ayan… boto na ko!
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By bluepanjeet on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
@chuva - oi salamat.
@Knoizi - nakalimutan ko pala ikaw..
we have the same mixed audience. kaya everytime I write my post I use translation so that foreingers alien to our language would not feel out of placed. You’re a big name, you just dont know..
@Ronnie - ngayon ko lang nabasa fully comment mo hahaha… magtitigil ba ako. Oist sincere ako nung sinabi ko na big name ka.
@ Reynz - and Yes you are not delusional. you are indeed a unique and famous blogger, with or without the crown. Its not fellow bloggers who will decide, its uyour nameless, lurkers and readers hehehe.
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By Anti-Elitist on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
“manner by which the post was written shows the character of that who wrote it. The way people handle their anger definitely shows the kind of character they have.”
So what if it shows character? should it be not? and who would perceive it? you? definitely of all the people? Character, same as “how it was said” is very subjective depending on the perception of the reader. Are you sure that in your blog you never wrote any bitchy rants? I doubt it. Have you ever thought what nameless bloggers and novices actually thinks of you? And are you sure that if some of us will tell you right now that we do not perceive you as civil, rather as someone who is self righteous, would you accept it as it is? I doubt it Ms. Prudence. had someone said it here, you will definitely rant about it on your blog, or worse defend it here. because I have been here for years in the blogosphere and never did you mention on your blogs that you were SORRY of anything. Is that the civility and character you are talking about? such hypocrites to the highest angelic level!.
The truth is, you only accept opinions that agrees with your own. that’s it.
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By reyna elena on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
@sasha,
lam mu, i woke up and i read my comments again, hehehe, nag-mukha na syang blog ko! hahaha! sana wag ako i-block dito! weeeeee!
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By bluepanjeet on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
@reynz - syempre di ka ibaban dito hehe.
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By Prudence on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
to Anti-Elitist:
“So what if it shows character? should it be not? and who would perceive it? you?”
— Did I air any objections to showing character? No. I merely stated that how you write your post
show the kind of character you have. And I think it should not be “should it be not?”. It should be “should it not?” As to who will perceive it, then everybody who reads such post. Since you’ve taken the liberty to attempt reading my character based upon my writings, then everybody would also take that liberty.
“Character, same as “how it was said” is very subjective depending on the perception of the reader.”
— While that most observations can be both subjective and objective, then perception of character is also both subjective and objective. I don’t understand your problem with subjectivity since you’ve applied it all throughout your last comment.
“Are you sure that in your blog you never wrote any bitchy rants? I doubt it.”
— I do not deny that I rant in my blog. But perhaps my definition of “ranting” quite differs from yours. At least, I try to watch my use of the language.
“And are you sure that if some of us will tell you right now that we do not perceive you as civil, rather as someone who is self righteous, would you accept it as it is? I doubt it Ms. Prudence. had someone said it here, you will definitely rant about it on your blog, or worse defend it here.”
— If I think the accusations are false, I’d be entitled to defend myself, won’t I? I can acknowledge your right to say your opinion, but that doesn’t mean I should also accept it as true.
“because I have been here for years in the blogosphere and never did you mention on your blogs that you were SORRY of anything”
— Oh, I didn’t know you are such a fan of my blog that you read my EVERY post
Putting out your last comment puts you in a special position. If I try to defend myself by arguing against your comment, you’d say I cannot tolerate other people’s opinions. If I don’t, then you’d conclude that I’ve already made up my mind without putting into consideration what other people say. That position, if not unfair, is flawed at its best. If there is someone who has a problem with differing opinion, I think it’s you, Anti-Elitist.
And if I may say so, your response to my last comment is a bit tangential, or, if not, it totally missed its mark. And you’re incredible with the ad hominem arguments.
However, the nature of your last comment definitely helped illustrate what I’ve been trying to say in my previous comment. I need not say anything more.
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By the jester-in-exile on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
no comment.
*instead, kneels on the floor and bows with sincere reverence.
great post.
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By Thess on Sep 18, 2007 | Reply
Kapatid na blueP..ito pala ang entry na nabanggit mo…well, I have nothing worthy to say except -
tara, inuman na lang tayo lahat…EB tayo, ilabas ang opinion at pagkatapos ng EB, umuwing hindi man magkaibigan, hindi rin magkagalit.
Am I a dreamer? perhaps I am…perhaps.
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By chuva on Sep 19, 2007 | Reply
hi bluep - visit uli ako kasi nakita ko yung link mo.. eh ang init pala rito.
josko. hi prudence, hi reynz… hi din anti-elitist.
teka labas muna ko - - papahangin… he-he!!
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By bluepanjeet on Sep 19, 2007 | Reply
Gandang umaga sa lahat. natulog lang ako at nag-aral dumami na post hahahaha. umagamg umaga ang init dito hehehe. tinanggal ko lang moderation eh sabak-sabak ang comments. its a good thing para real time usapan.
Have a nice day everyone
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By bluepanjeet on Sep 19, 2007 | Reply
@ jester - ei jester, thanks for dropping by. You don’t have to kneel hehehe. Your presence here is enough hehehe.
@Thess - yeah this is the post.sabi ko sayo mainit pa sa pandesal ito eh hehe. Tara inuman hahaha umaga dito bawal ang alak, kape lang.
@Chuva - ala yung dalawang girl sa blog mo nanahimik buong gabi, ikaw kasi ninitriga mo kami na love triangle eh hahahaha. No comment na ako dyan. magbloblog nalang ako. LOL
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By chuva on Sep 19, 2007 | Reply
haha!! bluep - - naku achus! mukhang nagkaka-developan.. ay naku.. ayoko na rin, baka itakwil ako ng anak kong mabait..
ako si mega, anak ko si JC - - o diba, parang bagay na bagay.. Mega and KC… shet..
Kaya, susunod na magkowment ka..sign ka na lang ng Lino Cayetano.. he-he!!
Eto namang si Angel Locsin (Chuvaness) - nakakatuwa na rin ang mga kowments.. haaaay buhay ang saya!!!
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By bluepanjeet on Sep 19, 2007 | Reply
(ano achus?) hindi naman. nagbibiro lang din yung dalawa. siguro para masaya usapan. di naman siguro madedevelop yun dalawa kasi they are both intelligent and the fact that we havent seen each other personally. so imposible naman siguro madevelop sa hindi pa namemmeet. hehehe pwera na lang kung may kamera sila na de rolyoang film, yun pa baka madevelop hehehe.
kc ba? hahaha dapat pala ang tawag ko na sayo at ate mega LOL
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By fruityoaty on Sep 22, 2007 | Reply
Really, I was one of your first readers? Ah, I feel honored to have been there in the beginning of your fine, fine blog.
You definitely don’t need to impress me or care too much about comments you may make on my blog. I totally encourage differences in opinion on my blog, provided people are respectful of each other (and me). You always are respectful. You’re one of the nicest bloggers out there — you never write anything defamatory or hateful, even when you’re disagreeing with something/someone. You have good style, hehe.
I always say, if you put out negativity, you get negativity back. Be prepared to take the consequences.
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By benj on Sep 22, 2007 | Reply
Wow, dude. ANG HABA NG ENTRY NA TO. Isang buwang entries-worth na to sa ibang bloggers. Haahaha
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By bluepanjeet on Sep 24, 2007 | Reply
@fruity - yeah.. you were.. I did not know you from the start pero when I looked at your blog I said “whoa” that was one excellent blogger there. That was actually before because I was really new on commenting. I thought differently then precisely because it was a new territory for me. But reading your blog really gave me a lesson, that is, and taking from what you wrote there, “be yourself even though sometimes people really dont understand what you are talking about” LOL. that was a classic indeed on your blog but very true and meaningful. Thanks for being a part of this blog’s history hehe. I’m so honored my friend.
@benj - Haha oo nga eh. actually sumakit ulo ko dito talaga haha. buti kamo natapos ko. BTW congrats bro, i saw you on TV with che che lazaro on ANC. you are very eloquent and insightful indeed. I salute you bro. wala panama sa mga sagot mo si ms. lazaro haha kahit she was really trying hard to insinuate something against the bloggers. Ipopost ko dito yung episode na yun from youtube. one of the best.
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By Jon on Oct 1, 2007 | Reply
I am really enjoying your site.
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By bluepanjeet on Oct 1, 2007 | Reply
Hey Jon i’m glad you enjoy my site.
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